ns33
07-10 09:49 PM
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
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Dear Mr. pascal,
Given that you are the super moderator, how can you even hint that EB3 vs EB2 reflect skill level of employee - don't you know by now that category is determined by "job's Requirement"?!!!!!!
Also your stereotyping of all EB3s as 3 year Indian degree holder is the most unfortunate - I only hope that rest of the IV leadership is not made up of that crappy idea.
For the record, I hold US Master's degree and am really offended by your comment and your view point.
For the rest of the members reading this topic, this is exactly why being EB3 on IV is becoming more frustrating by the day... especially when the super mods posses such views...
I am sorry forthis is wandering away from topic, but everyone including super mod mr. pascal has done that on this thread.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
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Dear Mr. pascal,
Given that you are the super moderator, how can you even hint that EB3 vs EB2 reflect skill level of employee - don't you know by now that category is determined by "job's Requirement"?!!!!!!
Also your stereotyping of all EB3s as 3 year Indian degree holder is the most unfortunate - I only hope that rest of the IV leadership is not made up of that crappy idea.
For the record, I hold US Master's degree and am really offended by your comment and your view point.
For the rest of the members reading this topic, this is exactly why being EB3 on IV is becoming more frustrating by the day... especially when the super mods posses such views...
I am sorry forthis is wandering away from topic, but everyone including super mod mr. pascal has done that on this thread.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
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gc_check
04-14 08:11 AM
Even if you assume there are 3000-5000 labor subs that chocks up the queue, it might have benefited the ones with a 2003 PD like yourself. But for others (beyond 2003) , it is not much of a help. A visa recapture would benefit the community at large.
Even if you consider 3000-5000 labor subs, not many of those are "sold" labors, many of them are legal ones. labor subs were all legal until some companies started selling those.
Hi.. I'm not discussing whether labor subs is legal or not. Prior to July 2007, the law & regulations allowed to utilize the labor cert, that was certified for a Alien with a diff Alien, provided skill, edu... etc matches. Though it is legal, the amount of mis-use led to sunset of the program after many many years of existence.
My argument is that Labor Sub, does impact PD movement significantly, Also most people I know with PD prior to 2002 , except very few unlucky ones most got their GC. Also in July 07 rush, many who had already filed 485 with PD 2003 and early 2004 also got approved.
I know there were lots of approvals from Backlog Elimination center, but unless you work for a very good company, I doubt you will still be stuck with the employer from 2000 just for the sake of GC. When the dates were current, many moved to other companies, If you were here in US during late 2000 and 2001, that was not nice year for IT / Tech. Now where did all these old PD's pop from. Definitely sub has a big role to play. As I said in my earlier post, nothing can be done abt. this.
Visa recapture and visa increase seems to be the only option that might help.... and most member now know what it takes to get there... $$$$ and more $$$$$ to lobby, etc...
Even if you consider 3000-5000 labor subs, not many of those are "sold" labors, many of them are legal ones. labor subs were all legal until some companies started selling those.
Hi.. I'm not discussing whether labor subs is legal or not. Prior to July 2007, the law & regulations allowed to utilize the labor cert, that was certified for a Alien with a diff Alien, provided skill, edu... etc matches. Though it is legal, the amount of mis-use led to sunset of the program after many many years of existence.
My argument is that Labor Sub, does impact PD movement significantly, Also most people I know with PD prior to 2002 , except very few unlucky ones most got their GC. Also in July 07 rush, many who had already filed 485 with PD 2003 and early 2004 also got approved.
I know there were lots of approvals from Backlog Elimination center, but unless you work for a very good company, I doubt you will still be stuck with the employer from 2000 just for the sake of GC. When the dates were current, many moved to other companies, If you were here in US during late 2000 and 2001, that was not nice year for IT / Tech. Now where did all these old PD's pop from. Definitely sub has a big role to play. As I said in my earlier post, nothing can be done abt. this.
Visa recapture and visa increase seems to be the only option that might help.... and most member now know what it takes to get there... $$$$ and more $$$$$ to lobby, etc...
antihero
04-11 11:36 PM
I believe as per the current rules CIS routinely assigns the PD of the substitute labor as the PD of the replacement worker.
What Rajiv Khanna says is very fair, but unfortunately CIS is not run by Khanna. In any case, can you please post the link to the aforementioned blog.
I read on Rajiv Khanna's blog that PD for LC substitution cases should be the date when I-140 is filed for substitute however, there is evidence that USCIS has wrongly assigned orginal priority date of LC filing, to substitute (I have seen this happening in one case at least, where susbstitue got priotity date of LC).
What Rajiv Khanna says is very fair, but unfortunately CIS is not run by Khanna. In any case, can you please post the link to the aforementioned blog.
I read on Rajiv Khanna's blog that PD for LC substitution cases should be the date when I-140 is filed for substitute however, there is evidence that USCIS has wrongly assigned orginal priority date of LC filing, to substitute (I have seen this happening in one case at least, where susbstitue got priotity date of LC).
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kavita
07-10 09:39 PM
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mjdup
07-06 08:13 AM
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I don't think IV core will oppose this idea..
I don't think IV core will oppose this idea..
realizeit
03-04 08:40 PM
I will be there at 8CST/9EST
Just a reminder folks for those who are planning on attending the conf call
conf call details : Dial in number 218 339 2626
Access code: 245906
Time: 9:00 PM EST 3/4/2009 Wednesday
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Just a reminder folks for those who are planning on attending the conf call
conf call details : Dial in number 218 339 2626
Access code: 245906
Time: 9:00 PM EST 3/4/2009 Wednesday
Thanks
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dtekkedil
07-05 02:05 PM
We will each individually send flowers to Emilio Gonzalez to be delivered July 10th. There is a suggestion to use a paypal account where we contribute money. However no one has come forward to take over the account so far.
The theme of the note attached to the flowers should be Sympathy or Get well.
Preferred Message(Sympathy): All the best for future Employment Based visa estimates
I do like the "Get Well: Hope USCIS recovers from its insanity" message as well
July 07th - Last day to mail flowers (I doubt if they can deliver on Tuesday if we order on Monday)
July 08th - Draft the letter to be mailed to media.
July 09th - Finalize the letter and mass mail it to every media email addresses we have.
July 10th - hope the media take the bait!
The theme of the note attached to the flowers should be Sympathy or Get well.
Preferred Message(Sympathy): All the best for future Employment Based visa estimates
I do like the "Get Well: Hope USCIS recovers from its insanity" message as well
July 07th - Last day to mail flowers (I doubt if they can deliver on Tuesday if we order on Monday)
July 08th - Draft the letter to be mailed to media.
July 09th - Finalize the letter and mass mail it to every media email addresses we have.
July 10th - hope the media take the bait!
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chanduy9
07-06 12:46 PM
Can we hit the magic 3 figures????
I think it is gonna be a slow hit...
Guys help your self by sending the flowers....
Thanks,
Chandra.
I think it is gonna be a slow hit...
Guys help your self by sending the flowers....
Thanks,
Chandra.
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EB3_SEP04
08-12 01:23 PM
I renewed my passport from NY consulate last month, but on the last page, my mother's name is spelled as "LILABEN" instead of "LILABAI". I plan to visit Canada on Sep 1st (going on cruise :)). Gurus, I need your opinion on:
- How important is it to correct this, could this mis-spelling be a problem going forward?
- Can i get this error corrected after i come back from Canada meaning after the PP has recieved entry/exit stamps?
- Is there enough time to get the job done by Sep 1st?
I am just afraid to send it again as our brilliant and efficient consultate people can mess up something more important.
- How important is it to correct this, could this mis-spelling be a problem going forward?
- Can i get this error corrected after i come back from Canada meaning after the PP has recieved entry/exit stamps?
- Is there enough time to get the job done by Sep 1st?
I am just afraid to send it again as our brilliant and efficient consultate people can mess up something more important.
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new_horizon
06-14 12:45 PM
I was one of the guys from MI that redds777 hosted. I must say I can't thank enough for the hospitality he and his family had shown us.
Also I know a couple of other DC members who hosted outside folks. Thanks to them also.
Thank you Sanju for donating for this event .
Actually funds that are raised for an event should happen much before any such event because we need to lay the ground work for the event in DC . I dont know when our next event would be. IV core can comment on that after watching the legislative events in DC in next few months .
What i was conveying was, to donate to the pool of resources and be ready when the bills start moving in the congress . IV would need to hit the road again at that time to continue the momentum from the lobby event and have our provisions included in the base bill. Regarding the dollar number, i dont know how much would be needed.
On the day of the events you can get involved by actually hosting some members in your homes if u live in DC area . actually i hosted 3 guys from MI thsi time . that way it makes easier for the members on their pockets as they would have spent on air tickets etc.. there are many ways to be actively invloved in IV for our cause. you can motivate your collegues and friends do teh same for our cause. Rest assured that IV will use the money sensibly as i have seen in this event.
Thanks
Also I know a couple of other DC members who hosted outside folks. Thanks to them also.
Thank you Sanju for donating for this event .
Actually funds that are raised for an event should happen much before any such event because we need to lay the ground work for the event in DC . I dont know when our next event would be. IV core can comment on that after watching the legislative events in DC in next few months .
What i was conveying was, to donate to the pool of resources and be ready when the bills start moving in the congress . IV would need to hit the road again at that time to continue the momentum from the lobby event and have our provisions included in the base bill. Regarding the dollar number, i dont know how much would be needed.
On the day of the events you can get involved by actually hosting some members in your homes if u live in DC area . actually i hosted 3 guys from MI thsi time . that way it makes easier for the members on their pockets as they would have spent on air tickets etc.. there are many ways to be actively invloved in IV for our cause. you can motivate your collegues and friends do teh same for our cause. Rest assured that IV will use the money sensibly as i have seen in this event.
Thanks
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willigetgc?
06-15 09:36 AM
This was the first time I participated in the event - I had no idea of what to expect and what can be achieved. I can honestly say that meeting all the people who attended the advocacy days showed me the dedication this group has and also realized that there was so much more to initiating laws and passing laws and how futile our arguments are on the forums regarding different categories in EB.
In the meetings that I attended either the staff knew little about our problems (green card backlogs and legal immigration) or they knew of our problems and told us about the vast hurdles in the political environment that keeps popping up and derailing immigration reform. However, at no time the issue of EB1, EB2, or EB3 ever came up!! At the end of Monday, most of us met to share our experiences and as far as I can remember none of them mentioned it either. There was a lot of discussion on what the staffers wanted to know about IV and the solutions it was proposing. We were met with both understanding as well as skepticism - and I believe our job is to have more discussion with them and to make them see our point of view.
Obviously we cannot be in DC to do this all the time, but I believe that we need to continue to keep in touch with these staffers as well as make repeated visits to the local district offices too. Two observations, many of the staffers wanted to know if we were from the district or the state that their offices represented - and even though IV tried to match this, we just lacked members from certain area, so fellow IVians, I request larger and wider participation in such efforts. Secondly, I have met with both my Rep as well as one of my Senators office locally, and when I mentioned it to the staffer in DC, she was very happy and was more receptive.
I want to take this opportunity to Thank IV for opening my eyes to a world that I live in but never cared to understand. The road ahead for us immigrants is hard and long, but now I have started to pave the road with IV leadership. The question is will it be just few working hard and long? Or can we hope for better with 40,000 members?
In the meetings that I attended either the staff knew little about our problems (green card backlogs and legal immigration) or they knew of our problems and told us about the vast hurdles in the political environment that keeps popping up and derailing immigration reform. However, at no time the issue of EB1, EB2, or EB3 ever came up!! At the end of Monday, most of us met to share our experiences and as far as I can remember none of them mentioned it either. There was a lot of discussion on what the staffers wanted to know about IV and the solutions it was proposing. We were met with both understanding as well as skepticism - and I believe our job is to have more discussion with them and to make them see our point of view.
Obviously we cannot be in DC to do this all the time, but I believe that we need to continue to keep in touch with these staffers as well as make repeated visits to the local district offices too. Two observations, many of the staffers wanted to know if we were from the district or the state that their offices represented - and even though IV tried to match this, we just lacked members from certain area, so fellow IVians, I request larger and wider participation in such efforts. Secondly, I have met with both my Rep as well as one of my Senators office locally, and when I mentioned it to the staffer in DC, she was very happy and was more receptive.
I want to take this opportunity to Thank IV for opening my eyes to a world that I live in but never cared to understand. The road ahead for us immigrants is hard and long, but now I have started to pave the road with IV leadership. The question is will it be just few working hard and long? Or can we hope for better with 40,000 members?
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mjdup
12-20 12:54 PM
I had the first-hand opportunity to meet and see IV core members working for our cause. Really, it gives you the chill that thinking its the same GC everyone on this forum wants but the dedication with which they are approaching is amazing. There is no point talking about what we "could have done" after the congress session is over and god forbid, our bill doesn't pass through. 2008 is all about elections and the citizens, not too much of immigration will come to forefront, so please think.....
Contributors> thanks for the contribution...
Sideline onlookers> Till yesterday we had about 40.08% contribution and as of noon today we are only at 43.97%, contribution of 3.89% which amounts to around $2400 :) I bet we can do so much better after all we are so called "high skilled" immigrants....
please step up and let's not make it a beg fest..here..thanks !
T I am not a core member, but I trust these guys, they have been working hard putting in their own hard-earned money for travelling, and carrying out IV work. At this point, IV really needs two things, more members and more FUNDS . IV needs you to contribute, even if it is $20
Contributors> thanks for the contribution...
Sideline onlookers> Till yesterday we had about 40.08% contribution and as of noon today we are only at 43.97%, contribution of 3.89% which amounts to around $2400 :) I bet we can do so much better after all we are so called "high skilled" immigrants....
please step up and let's not make it a beg fest..here..thanks !
T I am not a core member, but I trust these guys, they have been working hard putting in their own hard-earned money for travelling, and carrying out IV work. At this point, IV really needs two things, more members and more FUNDS . IV needs you to contribute, even if it is $20
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11-27 04:40 PM
Thanks a lot
Thanks for your response!
Thanks for your response!
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potatoeater
08-12 06:53 PM
Why so much emphasis on growing your own vegetables? :confused:
What crop should I grow? :confused:
EB3 Guys,
Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.
No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
What crop should I grow? :confused:
EB3 Guys,
Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.
No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
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kate123
02-25 03:16 PM
ganguteli,
I completely dis agree with you. This action item is completely different. As realiseit mentioned earlier, we should take one step at a time. we have another thread revlvoing around the IV for prefiling of AOS. Please see http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23695
If you have any innovative ideas please come forward and once we gain enough momentum then we can request entire communtiy (including who have applied for AOS) to help us with the effort.
Do not take my comment personally.
Thanks,
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
I completely dis agree with you. This action item is completely different. As realiseit mentioned earlier, we should take one step at a time. we have another thread revlvoing around the IV for prefiling of AOS. Please see http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23695
If you have any innovative ideas please come forward and once we gain enough momentum then we can request entire communtiy (including who have applied for AOS) to help us with the effort.
Do not take my comment personally.
Thanks,
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
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dtekkedil
07-06 04:56 PM
I understand your agency does all it can; Do the best job it can.
I also hope you empathize with the frustrations of a legal immigrant.
A small token of peaceful protest and hoping for the best.
I also hope you empathize with the frustrations of a legal immigrant.
A small token of peaceful protest and hoping for the best.
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kart2007
08-13 12:11 PM
I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 square ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.
Thanks for sharing. I am in California. I have about 1600 sq feet to grow our veggies. We use raised beds. I have grown everything you mentioned but could not get snake gourd (paduwal or podlanga). Where do you get the seeds from? I get seeds like Lauki (bottle gourd), Turai (Ridge gourd) etc from amazon. I was never able to grow cantaloupes and melons successfully.
September tomatoes will be ready to plant soon! Come October, cool season crops like spinach, dill, cabbage, broccoli etc will be planted.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.
Thanks for sharing. I am in California. I have about 1600 sq feet to grow our veggies. We use raised beds. I have grown everything you mentioned but could not get snake gourd (paduwal or podlanga). Where do you get the seeds from? I get seeds like Lauki (bottle gourd), Turai (Ridge gourd) etc from amazon. I was never able to grow cantaloupes and melons successfully.
September tomatoes will be ready to plant soon! Come October, cool season crops like spinach, dill, cabbage, broccoli etc will be planted.
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sugaur
12-07 10:22 AM
Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
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wellwishergc
12-19 02:56 PM
What does the collection show at the moment? Are we closing in on 30000$?
20$ this time! Thanks.
20$ this time! Thanks.
dtekkedil
07-05 02:48 PM
Hey Chandra can you add the plan of action into your first post on this thread? Add the address and message etc too. So that people don't miss it.
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Not trying to stress on the price...but just a question ...can we get it for this price ? less thatn 10 ? I am not able to see any under 30 $
Basically might be better to send 2 for 10$ rather than 1 for 20$ ....or say 5 for 10$ rather than 1 for 50$......
guess the quantity matters....so if let us know where you can get cheapest so we can send more....
I think the idea is quite good....we are on indiatimes and so many desis here read indiatimes and the awareness is going to increase....
all the best to all of us -:)
Not trying to stress on the price...but just a question ...can we get it for this price ? less thatn 10 ? I am not able to see any under 30 $
Basically might be better to send 2 for 10$ rather than 1 for 20$ ....or say 5 for 10$ rather than 1 for 50$......
guess the quantity matters....so if let us know where you can get cheapest so we can send more....
I think the idea is quite good....we are on indiatimes and so many desis here read indiatimes and the awareness is going to increase....
all the best to all of us -:)
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